• ERMS Blacklist WhatsApp Group Set Up By WattElectricalNews
ERMS Blacklist WhatsApp Group Set Up By WattElectricalNews
08 Mar, 2017, 13 Comment

Summary: Several weeks ago we posted a story about the ERMS blacklist and had quite a bit of feedback about it. Today, we would like to begin finding out your experiences regarding this.....

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The Employment Relations Management System (ERMS) is supposedly an employee database that records information on workers who have been employed by resource companies and contractors. These companies ultimately use this database to select - or not select - workers for future employment. It allows companies to collect and share information they have on employees to aid in managing work forces for projects. Several companies that we’ve been told which use this system are Rio Tinto, BHP, Lend Lease, and Monadelphous, amongst others.
   

WattElectricalNews has found that many people who have worked for one or more of these companies have felt that they are unable to obtain work anymore which they feel is because of potentially negative information about them being placed into this system. Perhaps they have done things which make employing them a risk, which is why this system was probably thought up in the first place. But we’ve heard people being on the ERMS for refusing to do something they objected to morally or being dobbed in for doing what they thought was the right thing at that time and then inadvertently being caught up in its web. 

With this being the case, ERMS is doubling up as a discriminatory system for what it classifies as unwanted types of workers, whether this is justified or not.

Someone may easily argue that no, it isn’t, and if you doubt it, you can pay a small fee to see what this database says about you and what you’ll find there is just basic information about yourself in the system.

However, there has been mention of obscure codes or references that people couldn’t really decipher unless they already knew what they meant. Codes that could say whether a worker is one worth hiring or implying that the worker should never be hired by any company using this system. Or, in other words, “blacklisting” the individual.

Now if the individual has been discriminated against - and especially if there is insufficient reason for this, then it is a grossly unfair system.

This could mean individuals would have real difficulties finding real work in the future with this situation and having no course for redress. Even criminals who go to jail and then come out after they’ve done their time get this leeway, so why are workers being put through this system, especially those who feel they’ve done nothing wrong?

Who acts as the judge and jury for this system?

Are you a worker who feels that you have been blacklisted by this system? Is there even some super-secret system at all bent on getting rid of troublesome workers in the first place? We need to get to the bottom of this. We at WattElectricalNews have set up a WhatsApp group to help draw out these issues and this WhatsApp group can be accessed via any mobile through this link:

https://chat.whatsapp.com/78vDn6FeVR0GXbMQt6tdAR  

Remember it is a mobile phone app only so please don’t try and access this via your desktop or your laptop or tablet.

We would very much like to get people on to this group and then have an open discussion about it. If there really is a discriminatory system set up, and this is unjustified, then something should be done about it. Perhaps collectively we can approach a legal firm, especially one who works on an outcomes basis, to get to the bottom of this. Let’s get the discussion started. 

By: Ray Pavri & Elijah Lavallee

wattelectricalnews.com 8/3/2017

Comments.
  • MyPassion

    Barry Perkins
    08 Mar, 2017

    Great work Guys keep it up
  • MyPassion

    Anonymous
    08 Mar, 2017

    Obviously Orvel was a good visionary???? Corporates are playing God?
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    David curry
    08 Mar, 2017

    OPEN LETTER TO ALL VISITORS TO AND VIEWERS OF THIS LINK AND ARTICLE .. PLEASE DONT JUST LIKE IT. SHARE IT WITH AS MANY OTHERS AS YOU CAN..
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    Anonymous
    08 Mar, 2017

    Why is there no laptop link? Why only for a phone? And, why not provide/publish publicly, a list of these companies? They have ruined folks livelihood and families. These corporate's need to be taken down a few pegs.
  • MyPassion

    Ray
    08 Mar, 2017

    The reason there is no laptop link is that WhatsApp is only a phone based app. Why WhatsApp? Because it is widely used, is available by mobile which everyone has now-a-days, is free and easy to download, allows instant chat features via mobile so individuals affected by it can seek solace and remedy if necessary. You can download WhatsApp and then get on to this. In terms of what's sought to be done through this forum and through WhatsApp is to raise awareness and to create a large group of individuals who've been affected by it creating momentum and potentially so that this could be used to lobby appropriate authorities. That is what I am trying to do. I have not personally been affected by this but want to help those affected by it through this website I own and run.
  • MyPassion

    Name Withheld
    09 Mar, 2017

    Guys, I'm a construction worker and I can honestly tell you, you are (unintentionally) spruiking something that doesn't exist, the deeper you look the more you find ! https://bilowblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/01/erms-the-poison-culture-from-one-worker-to-another/
  • MyPassion

    Anonymous
    09 Mar, 2017

    I'm not so sure. I've often wondered about something like ERMS. A good friend and colleague got sacked from one the largest mining concerns in the world. That person was hard working, did regular extended hours without complaint, a leader in safety targets, a mentor to graduates, nothing too big or small and is then marched off site for, wait for it, "bad performance." This all started as this friend "stood up" to this supervisor and a complaint was made to Management about "bullying," being sworn at and generally harassed. It all went down hill from there. Since then all applications have had a thanks but no thanks. Conspiracy theory perhaps, perhaps not.
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    Anonymous
    11 Mar, 2017

    I virtually was everything it takes to be defined as a "legend" work-wise but it's been four years after being sent packing for what? I don't know!! Some subtle ...ism from a poor performing boss and the audacity to stand against that saw me hated, bullied and victimized by him and his inner circle including his HR puppets. Let's seek assistance from Mr. Julian Asange!!!
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    Ray Pavri
    11 Mar, 2017

    I Would much prefer to be able to get any expose reporter like... JOHN PILGER.. To do an expose feature on this matter. Any one out there know JOHN PILGER well enough to have any influence with him? more than one person has suggested getting some very good computer hackers on board to deal with the matter.. Any body know any? David Curry
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    Anonymous
    13 Mar, 2017

    Despite all the words of the nay Sayers and flat earthers, there are some irrefutable facts concerning the Bright People Technologies ERMS Computer Program. And the negative impact it has on the ability of many people to get jobs on projects, particularly in WA. Whether You believe in the 1,2,3 code that some have spoken of, or you believe in the black list it matters less. As to exactly what system the ERMS computer system uses to mark / note your file in the negative , it could say.. "DO NOT EMPLOY THIS PERSON". What matters the most is the fact that IT ACTUALLY DOES EXIST and many are affected by it and cannot get jobs and have no means of redress it. For those persons who have actually taken the time to research this subject, they are aware that WA unions have known about it for years and on occasions in the past have made attempts in the courts to close it down but with no effect. Why is that you ask ? Try doing a bit of your own research. Only when there are enough truly informed, outraged and incensed people out there do we stand any chance of being able to bring about any change thru political action and or enough members to create a group to take a legal class action in the courts. What is also needed is a POLITICAL LOBBY GROUP to put pressure on your political representatives. An expose article in the national media by a top notch investigative journalist like ...JOHN PILGER to get some national exposure would also be a good thing. Gentlemen and ladies who among you would be interested in joining a class action group where we engage a no win, no cost law firm to take such a case on? Perhaps Ray could set up a register for people to put their names on. How about it Ray? Is that a Do-able? I am sure the more likes this idea got the more ray would be inclined to oblige us. Dave, 13/03/17
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    Anonymous
    13 Mar, 2017

    So as the owner of this web site Watt Electrical News, I can provide the platform through which issues like the "Blacklist" can be addressed. Because I've not had this experience myself, I can at this stage, only provide an avenue for those affected to stand up and be noticed. But for any "system" and if you say that the Blacklist is a system to discriminate, then there must be individuals in the thousands affected by it. The companies highlighted by those affected are not small companies and they are not going to set up a system for a small group of 10, 15 or even 100 people. So thousands should have been affected by it if this exists as a system. When I have raised the Blacklist issue and given it a platform, we have had 14 or so who have joined. But 14 does not make up a systemised approach to discrimination. So unless we have individuals by the hundreds join or support this, it cannot be taken to a legal firm or even to an investigative journalist - well atleast I am not going to do so unless I see a lot more people affected by this. So if this is a real issue lets see how many people support this ultimately. If lots support this, then I am willing to champion it and take this up with a legal firm and approach an investigative journalist on behalf of the group.

    Ray Pavri, 13/03/17
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    Anonymous
    21 Mar, 2017

    FYI - You can use the ERMS WhatsApp Group using a desk-top or a lap top through this link https://web.whatsapp.com/

    Ray, 21/03/17
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    Anonymous
    15 Apr, 2017

    I think I have been black listed with Chandler Macleod as she said she would not put me forward for any jobs and I feel the same with workpac apply for dump truck jobs have the tickets never hear back
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